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Post by itrainmonkeys on Mar 30, 2010 14:12:29 GMT -5
Can someone tell me if Further Fest has a LiveNation presence? it actually seems like Furthur Fest has MORE of a live nation presence than Nateva. www.livenation.com/edp/eventId/420089Enjoy. |
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Post by deadshowdan on Mar 30, 2010 14:24:43 GMT -5
yes, that's what I was pointing you to. It seems that is a Live Nation gig
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Post by differentdrummer on Mar 30, 2010 14:35:07 GMT -5
I heard/saw that Frankie was a big executive type. Real heady...maaaaaaaaaaaan.
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Post by boo on Mar 30, 2010 14:38:54 GMT -5
However it's being run, how the heck can you call 15,000 people intimate? Sure it's not Bonaroo, but 15,000 people is not intimate LOL! You want an intimate festival the same weekend, you can go to Blue Heron Festival, that's intimate! 15K people is a major festival, not a small one. Coming up from North Carolina... 'roo is the standard that I'm pretty much used to. I was absolutely blown away with the "intimate" feel of Rothbury last year compared to previous 'roo's when that had however many people it had. 'Roo was my first festival, so dropping down to Rothbury's size was crazy. It was so weird to see the same people over and over again just wondering through the crowd... that's hardly something you run into with something like 'roo. So, for a 15k person crowd, that's going to feel a LOT more intimate than what I'm used to. Should be awesome and I can't wait. ;D EDIT: And I've been smited somewhere along the way.  the same for me roo was the only fest i attended for several years til roth. being able to see some people i met earlier was cool and the fact that i could run into some of my camp friends was sweet too that more then likely wouldn't happen at roo. so 15k is gona be perfect! DC holds 20-25 ppl for a regular show and sometimes that can be overwhelming. and & i fixed your little smite problem  |
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Post by fullstar on Mar 30, 2010 14:53:14 GMT -5
Given the lack of traffic on this message board and dismal ticket sales, I think it's safe to assume that Live Nation isn't working on the promotion of Nateva.
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Post by crixtala on Mar 30, 2010 15:09:32 GMT -5
Coming up from North Carolina... 'roo is the standard that I'm pretty much used to. I was absolutely blown away with the "intimate" feel of Rothbury last year compared to previous 'roo's when that had however many people it had. 'Roo was my first festival, so dropping down to Rothbury's size was crazy. It was so weird to see the same people over and over again just wondering through the crowd... that's hardly something you run into with something like 'roo. So, for a 15k person crowd, that's going to feel a LOT more intimate than what I'm used to. Should be awesome and I can't wait. ;D EDIT: And I've been smited somewhere along the way. the same for me roo was the only fest i attended for several years til roth. being able to see some people i met earlier was cool and the fact that i could run into some of my camp friends was sweet too that more then likely wouldn't happen at roo. so 15k is gona be perfect! DC holds 20-25 ppl for a regular show and sometimes that can be overwhelming. and & i fixed your little smite problem thanks boo |
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Post by phamilyman on Mar 30, 2010 15:14:22 GMT -5
negativity galore!!!
If I had to bet, these nimbering neibobs of negativity are probably sad that their own festival isn't shaping up (or generating as much buzz) like Nateva. Get a life, and here's some great marketing advice for you that you can take to the bank:
Instead of bad-mouthing other festivals ON THEIR OWN threads, why not promote the positives of your own festival on YOUR own threads? Benefits include, but are not limited to, reaching an audience actually interested in your fest, displaying a postive attitude that generates good vibes (as opposed to bad trips), and not looking like a sore loser/thread troll.
How long before you run out of names or email addresses to create new accounts and bash us?
We've moved on, you should too
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Post by phamilyman on Mar 30, 2010 15:15:13 GMT -5
yay karma!!
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Post by mojo4395 on Mar 30, 2010 15:15:30 GMT -5
negativity galore!!! If I had to bet, these nimbering neibobs of negativity are probably sad that their own festival isn't shaping up (or generating as much buzz) like Nateva. Get a life, and here's some great marketing advice for you that you can take to the bank: Instead of bad-mouthing other festivals ON THEIR OWN threads, why not promote the positives of your own festival on YOUR own threads? Benefits include, but are not limited to, reaching an audience actually interested in your fest, displaying a postive attitude that generates good vibes (as opposed to bad trips), and not looking like a sore loser/thread troll. How long before you run out of names or email addresses to create new accounts and bash us? We've moved on, you should too Phamilyman, if I hadn't already given out my hourly karma, you'd get it. Well said! |
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Post by crixtala on Mar 30, 2010 15:23:03 GMT -5
negativity galore!!! If I had to bet, these nimbering neibobs of negativity are probably sad that their own festival isn't shaping up (or generating as much buzz) like Nateva. Get a life, and here's some great marketing advice for you that you can take to the bank: Instead of bad-mouthing other festivals ON THEIR OWN threads, why not promote the positives of your own festival on YOUR own threads? Benefits include, but are not limited to, reaching an audience actually interested in your fest, displaying a postive attitude that generates good vibes (as opposed to bad trips), and not looking like a sore loser/thread troll. How long before you run out of names or email addresses to create new accounts and bash us? We've moved on, you should too Phamilyman, if I hadn't already given out my hourly karma, you'd get it. Well said! I was gonna cover for ya, and realized that I'm out too.  |
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Post by idio on Mar 30, 2010 15:49:42 GMT -5
I heard/saw that Frankie was a big executive type. Real heady...maaaaaaaaaaaan. yes, we should avoid success in order to stay as heady as possible.  Given the lack of traffic on this message board and dismal ticket sales, I think it's safe to assume that Live Nation isn't working on the promotion of Nateva. im sure you have first hand information on the ticket sales at nateva. thanks for sharing. |
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Post by phamilyman on Mar 30, 2010 15:58:04 GMT -5
thanks everybody!
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Post by Dexxy on Mar 30, 2010 16:04:13 GMT -5
Given the lack of traffic on this message board and dismal ticket sales, I think it's safe to assume that Live Nation isn't working on the promotion of Nateva. im sure you have first hand information on the ticket sales at nateva. thanks for sharing. I had prepared a snide remark to respond to this with, then had my doubts about the seriousness of that post. I began to think that it was obvious sarcasm.. In the course of the 2 weeks this forum has exsisted it has had: 961 Posts, 89 Individual threads, 103 members, and just in the last 24 hours over 200 guests. Also bein someone who has a slight feel for ticket sales,I can say they are doing just damn fine. |
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Post by boo on Mar 30, 2010 16:59:48 GMT -5
im sure you have first hand information on the ticket sales at nateva. thanks for sharing. I had prepared a snide remark to respond to this with, then had my doubts about the seriousness of that post. I began to think that it was obvious sarcasm.. In the course of the 2 weeks this forum has exsisted it has had: 961 Posts, 89 Individual threads, 103 members, and just in the last 24 hours over 200 guests. Also bein someone who has a slight feel for ticket sales,I can say they are doing just damn fine. so there! sorry thats what i thought of when i first read dex response |
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Post by cde23 on Mar 30, 2010 22:45:16 GMT -5
I heard/saw that Frankie was a big executive type. Real heady...maaaaaaaaaaaan. How many big executive types are deadheads that start fund and attend music festivals with their families and friends? (Probably not many, I can tell you that.) I think the fact that Frank came onto these forums himself shows the intimate feel that this festival is going for. Since when do big executive types take the time to address people on a forum with a very sincere letter that states the intentions of his company. Where else do you have one of the main organizers of a festival take customers input on the festival like he has in the Facebook group in regards to bands and late night movies. The fact that people are stating that Nateva sold out because they used Live Nation to book 3 ACTS OUT OF A POTENTIAL 40 ACTS IS JUST ABSURD. Would you rather Nateva have a negative relationship with Live Nation causing them to pressure bands into not playing at the festival? I have personally worked with one of the promoters for Nateva and I can say it was one of the greatest work experiences I have had because of how easy it was to work with him. I think everyone that is against this festival should really give it a chance because you could be missing out on a great experience. I was excited for this year to be my first time at Rothbury and I was very disappointed to hear about it's postponement but I think Nateva will be a great replacement. Lets try and be more positive as these boards are supposed to be for a good time not arguing about issues like this. |
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Post by itrainmonkeys on Mar 31, 2010 0:09:01 GMT -5
Lets try and be more positive as these boards are supposed to be for a good time not arguing about issues like this. Great first post cde. Glad to see some more positivity. |
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Post by idio on Mar 31, 2010 9:17:54 GMT -5
im sure you have first hand information on the ticket sales at nateva. thanks for sharing. I had prepared a snide remark to respond to this with, then had my doubts about the seriousness of that post. I began to think that it was obvious sarcasm.. In the course of the 2 weeks this forum has exsisted it has had: 961 Posts, 89 Individual threads, 103 members, and just in the last 24 hours over 200 guests. Also bein someone who has a slight feel for ticket sales,I can say they are doing just damn fine. i think the sarcasm meter might be broken on this forum....  yes, my comment was a pulsating mass that was dripping and oozing sarcasm in it's most pure form. |
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Post by moondancer on Mar 31, 2010 12:36:29 GMT -5
I'm just chiming in here to say thank you Frank for all your hard work and dedication to getting Nateva up and running!
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Post by pennedpig on Apr 2, 2010 12:05:38 GMT -5
this is gonna be an awesome festival the three people posting negatively here from the gotv site are angry they bought early bird tix and got skunked with the lineup. dont let a few neg people take away from the awesomeness that will be NATEVA
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Post by joker on Apr 3, 2010 19:55:06 GMT -5
this is gonna be an awesome festival the three people posting negatively here from the gotv site are angry they bought early bird tix and got skunked with the lineup. FYI I don't think this is entirely true. Bigtoddy and I never saw eye to eye but he's had that stance for awhile now, I doubt it has anything to do with buying early bird tix. And I believe Deadshowdan does the radiovibes and is probably comped tix so it isn't likely it's because he bought early bird either |
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Post by direwolf40 on Apr 6, 2010 16:57:03 GMT -5
Hi all, I am not sure who runs what here and am not especially familliar with Live Nation as it relates to music and concerts but I do have misgivings when obvious monopolies are created that sifle competition and crush the ability of the "little guy" from making it. Travel around this country and all you see are the same big box store, the same chain restaurants and almost no small businesses that can compete. The Walmart-ization of this country is a very depressing thing. It would make me sad if music is going the same route.
I hope that people don't take my post as negative, I am super excited for this fest and can't wait for July. I just thought I'd throw in my 2c about a topic I care about.
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Post by Dexxy on Apr 6, 2010 17:14:21 GMT -5
I completely agree. Put in a few mins sometime, read this whole silly thread and you will be comforted that Nateva is not a Live Nation festy
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Post by pennedpig on Apr 7, 2010 7:50:10 GMT -5
Thankful that sanity wins this round. Special thanks to Frank for his honesty (and courage!). People are understandably eager to slam Live Nation (especially with the TicketMaster merger and DoJ suit), but they have booking down to a science (and for some highly popular bands, we don't have so much choice). Obviously, it was Frank's wise decision to *not* have LiveNation run this event. That inspires confidence in leadership. That flame-troll about 100 acres not being enough space should be moved to Logistics (or deleted). It's completely off-topic and also completely false. We don't even allow guests to post anymore on our (band-specific) forum, because we don't feel it's valuable to our community to allow total anonymity (they can hide from everyone else, but not the Mods and Admins, certainly not from the Webmaster! ;-}). -Phrazz even though it is off topic. 100 acres of camping space should be decent. another place that has 45 acres to camp holds fests with between 6000-8000 people so 100 acres should hold 15000 |
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Post by hammerhead on Apr 7, 2010 19:18:05 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but Frank impresses the sh$t out of me. I wouldn't miss this fest if you cut off both of my feet. Let the idiots talk their smack.... those smart enough to get their tiks and show up at this fest are going to be rewarded with something special.
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Post by tommacco on Apr 8, 2010 10:00:10 GMT -5
While we can respect your wishes and not repost an address or phone number, if you did not want that information to be made public in the first place you should've used an alternate address or phone number to register the domain name, domain registration info is generally public information. It might be possible to change the information, contact the domain registrar My name is Frank Chandler and the dream called 'Nateva Festival' started with me about 16 months ago. I am a husband, father, deadhead and businessman living in Massachusetts with a long term personal connection to Maine . It always seemed to me like there were lot's of music lovers north of Boston and for some reason most of the good music stopped before it got up to Maine, NH and VT. Great festivals only made it as far north as Bridgeport, CT. It just seemed there was a ton of demand for a top level festival up in Maine. I tripped over the guys that put together the Upnorth Festival in Hiram, ME at about the time I started to look into putting on a festival. They were young guys who while they had the heart, they never had the money necessary to make an event of this size successful, and as a result, at the conclusion of their event they owed money to vendors and contractors. In my mind, they had proven that people wanted an event like that, so I continued to move forward with my plans. I paid those guys to let me use their pictures on the new Nateva Website and bought the Upnorth email list of ticket buyers. I hired one of their promoters and their head of production (who runs production at the House of Blues in Boston) to help with Nateva. Since we weren't known in the music community, we hired Live Nation to book our talent. They control the flow of bands in New England and they seemed an appropriate company to handle our booking. The first act they signed for us was Furthur. They always acted professionally and did everything that they promised us that they would do. Our only relationship to Live Nation is that they handled our initial round of booking. I make no apologies for that decision and am pleased with our lineup. I hope you are too. Today we are a family business putting on the Nateva Festival, hopefully on an annual basis. Our money came from a small group of my friends, and their friends. We have a small team of committed people in the greater Boston area that are working 18 hours a day, seven days a week, to make this an extraordinary event for every one of you. We have never done anything like this before and there will no doubt be hiccups along the way, but be assured that we will continue to work hard to make this the best festival that we can, for everybody involved. People think it's strange that we communicate openly with all of you, shame on them. All we do is offer a little bit of customer service to you - our friends and customers. You ask questions and we try to answer them. Has the music industry so lost it's way that it's forgotten how to communicate with their own customers? People say that we chose the bands that that the fans cried out for on our Facebook site. Is that so terrible? Shouldn't we try to provide our customers with the music that they want to hear? Aren't they the customers, after all. This is a grassroots effort and it's all about all of you. That said, I'd appreciate it if you all didn't post my home address and contact info on the web or on the boards. I'm a little shy about my personal life, please respect it if you can. I hope to see you all in Maine this summer and my wife and kids thank you for your continued support of our family business, The Nateva Festival. Warm Regards to You All, Frank |
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