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Post by wvmountainweir on Jun 20, 2010 22:45:00 GMT -5
Onsite Camping passes have been on sale since Febuary. It has been well known since the begining that the Nateva folks would like to keep this festival relatively intimate and small. Not surpisingly, Camping passes have since sold out. Meaning, If you do not have an Onsite Camping pass, you cannot enter the campgrounds onsite. period Simple as that. I know it sucks they sold out, but Onsite Camping passes have been on sale almost 6 months now! Thats a long time! If you can't camp onsite, just take the shuttle busses, I know thats sort of a buzzkill but it beats walking 30 minutes from camp to stage at a festival like Bonaroo or All Good. There will PLENTY of people in your same situation who can't camp onsite, but if you all have good vibes I dont see why the Speedway cant become a cool spot to chill, party and camp. Just a sattelite camping site, thats all! Hell, I may even take the shuttle over there just to see whats up and check out where the GD played those sick 88 shows! I guess this is just another one of those ((Good Vibes)) threads, but come on guys, were like a week away! Lets stop the questioning and concern, and just focus on what we should: Getting prepared for a hell of a weekend! ...Your gonna give your love to me  |
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Post by fearlessfreak on Jun 21, 2010 1:10:42 GMT -5
...Your gonna give your love to me What I was waiting for |
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Post by shmalphy on Jun 22, 2010 15:27:57 GMT -5
so let me get this clear. If me and my girl have on site passes, and we are going to drive up, and my brother decides to go last minute, he can not camp with us?? If we are his only ride, how will that work? What if some other friends are camped offsite, we can't invite them over for dinner at the campsite? I am trying to get prepared but it seems like the logistics are mind boggling.
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Post by mojo4395 on Jun 22, 2010 15:34:45 GMT -5
I would really recommend that, even if you have on-site passes, if you have someone come at the last minute, you plan on camping at the Speedway. Again, it seems like a really good setup, and the shuttles run 24 hours a day.
This is a simple issue of space. They don't have the space to camp 15,000 on-site, so they had no choice but to limit it. People had ample opportunity to buy those passes. A good parallel to this, in my opinion, is how Summer Camp does late night shows. Not everyone gets to see every late-night show. You have to buy additional tickets, and all of the shows have limited capacity. It's an issue of space.
I don't think the logistics are that difficult. If you have a camping ticket you can camp on site. If you don't, you can't get into the on-site camping area. If you have a mix of camping and non-camping people, my recommendation would be to have the whole group camp over at the Speedway, which is free. That way the group can camp together. I would bet good money that the shuttle from the stage to the Speedway would take less time than the walk from Centeroo to most camping at Bonnaroo.
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Post by armedaneian on Jun 22, 2010 15:41:41 GMT -5
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Post by jimbo02816 on Jun 22, 2010 15:48:47 GMT -5
Agrees with Mojo, tix been on sale for a long time and try to understand the logic. If things get out of control, we wont see a Nateva II. Everyone should cooperate but I do understand the concerns. People need to deal with it in a positive way.
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Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 22, 2010 15:58:31 GMT -5
I would bet good money that the shuttle from the stage to the Speedway would take less time than the walk from Centeroo to most camping at Bonnaroo. That's a fact. Some years at Roo I'd have to walk for 30-40 minutes to get to the venue. |
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Post by stef on Jun 22, 2010 16:29:38 GMT -5
if i buy a vip will i be able to camp with my friends with on site camping tickets also is alcohol included with vip tickets
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Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 22, 2010 16:39:12 GMT -5
if i buy a vip will i be able to camp with my friends with on site camping tickets also is alcohol included with vip tickets I'd assume you could based on this: Like almost every festival that any of us have ever attended... those with onsite camping or VIP passes will be allowed in the campgrounds. Not 100% sure though. If you want a definite answer you can post that question in the Official Q & A board. As for alcohol....you don't get free alcohol with the price of the VIP ticket, but there will be alcohol available for you. Here's what else comes with it: more info found here: natevafestival.com/vips/ |
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Post by shmalphy on Jun 23, 2010 8:46:26 GMT -5
Here is my issue: I paid and extra $20 per ticket to camp onsite, and now I am told that free camping is a better option if I want to be able to hang out with my friends. Also, if we want to show up Thursday they can't get in with us so they either have to find another ride, or hang out alone where they can't even hear the show...
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Post by mojo4395 on Jun 23, 2010 8:58:17 GMT -5
You paid the extra $20 to camp on-site and you got your ticket in time. Your friends didn't do that. Nateva was very clear that camping tickets were running low, and the people who didn't get them, for whatever reason, missed that opportunity. Having an on-site camping ticket gives the ticket holder benefits like access to the early-bird and the on-site campground. I'm not saying that the Speedway camping is a better option for everyone. You have to decide what is more important for you: camping on-site or camping with your friends that don't have on-site camping. Yes, it's unfortunate, but no one can say that they weren't warned that camping tickets were running low, and it was always clear (at least to me) that, if you didn't have on-site camping, you couldn't camp on-site.
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Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 23, 2010 9:03:45 GMT -5
Here is my issue: I paid and extra $20 per ticket to camp onsite, and now I am told that free camping is a better option if I want to be able to hang out with my friends. Also, if we want to show up Thursday they can't get in with us so they either have to find another ride, or hang out alone where they can't even hear the show... Playing devil's advocate here: Let's say I buy tickets to a pavilion show....with inside floor seats and cheaper lawn seats available. I get the floor seats because I want to be inside and closer to the stage then the lawn. My friends intend to go also, but by the time they buy their tickets only lawn is available and the higher priced, better tickets are sold out. What am I supposed to do? I can either go inside and enjoy the show, or I have the option of hanging out with my friends in the lawn section. It wouldn't be fair for them to join me in entering the seated section just because we want to hang out and they weren't able to get the same ticket as me. We honestly don't know how strictly the rules will be enforced until we get there....but the fact is that you paid the extra $20 to camp onsite and your friends didn't. It sucks but that's the way it is. It also is annoying that you won't be able to see them on Thursday, but again....that's only because you got your tickets on time and they didn't. They may have valid reasons for not buying them early enough, but they still don't have the right ticket. I really hope everything works out and you guys can find a way to have a good weekend. If the splitting up of you and your friends bothers you at the festival then afterward i'd write a long post or e-mail to Nateva and explain your situation and complaints and hopefully Nateva will try to fix these possible issues next year. |
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Post by armedaneian on Jun 23, 2010 9:04:10 GMT -5
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Post by shmalphy on Jun 23, 2010 10:50:29 GMT -5
I am writing posts now to address the issues I see arising. I planned to leave Thursday morning. My brother, and friend need a ride, but if the comes with me they can't get in. So i either lose $40 (me and my gf's tix) and a day of the festival by going up with them, or they have to wait outside while we party, which is lame either way.
There is a big difference in a concert which is a few hours, and a festival where you need to travel with everything you need and camp for days. It takes planning, and planning around these rules is going to require tough decisions, because it is a loses lose situation.
We will have a good weekend no matter what, but I see things getting hairy for promoters if they really try to enforce all these rules. I wish everyone the best of luck, and hope all turns out well.
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Post by joker on Jun 23, 2010 11:02:43 GMT -5
Seems it basically boils down to improper planning on the part of your bro and his friend who didn't get their on-site tix when they were available and/or don't have their own ride. Perhaps you could trade your on-sites for a couple of off-sites (maybe get a 3 for 2)  |
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Post by digforfire on Jun 23, 2010 11:04:29 GMT -5
Wait.............so your saying if I have an off site ticket, I can't camp in onsite camping? What gives? lol.
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Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 23, 2010 11:20:19 GMT -5
I am writing posts now to address the issues I see arising. I planned to leave Thursday morning. My brother, and friend need a ride, but if the comes with me they can't get in. So i either lose $40 (me and my gf's tix) and a day of the festival by going up with them, or they have to wait outside while we party, which is lame either way. You're right. It is lame either way. But it could have been avoided if: a.) You all bought on-site camping tickets or b.) Your bro and friend had their own ride to the festival I totally get that you want to spend time with your family and friends at the festival, but it's still not Nateva's fault that some of you have one kind of ticket and some of you have another. They've been clear about warning everyone when onsite tickets were getting low. It's only a lose-lose situation in your individual case. People who wanted to go together and all bought on-site camping tickets don't face a lose-lose situation. Your situation was created by you and your bro/friend. I'm sorry but it's true. Hopefully you're able to hang out at the festival as much as you'd like and everything goes smoothly. I honestly have no idea how strictly the rules will be enforced until we get there and even then....if they don't go the way you'd like them to then let Nateva know afterward so they can work on fixing it next year. |
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Post by armedaneian on Jun 23, 2010 11:28:11 GMT -5
Shmalphy, I think your peers here are all in agreement, and you are right.  A festival does take planning... and it seems like your brother's lack of planning is the real issue here. If it's so lame to travel separately, why didn't you purchase tickets together? You wouldn't have to make any "tough decisions" if you planned on going together from the start. Instead of blaming the organizers and promoting anarchic gate crashing, why don't you let your brother & friend drop you off for the Thursday night festivities and meet up with them afterward. If you are afraid that would be too "lame", then you should sell your camping tickets and buy off-site ones. Your conundrum about losing $40 and a day of the festival isn't due to unfair rules, it's due to poor planning... either on your or your brother's part.  |
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Post by jimbo02816 on Jun 23, 2010 14:44:59 GMT -5
You can't argue with the truth...
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Post by whosaninja on Jun 23, 2010 16:22:57 GMT -5
I find it hard to belive that people are really having such a hard time with such a simple concept.
As far as enforcing rules, most of the festies that ive been to have been able to enforce these rules.
Sing it loud Keller - Gate crashers suck.
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Post by armedaneian on Jun 23, 2010 16:31:24 GMT -5
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Post by shmalphy on Jun 25, 2010 7:33:16 GMT -5
what is the deal with pop ups trailers etc in remote camping?
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Your brother may have a hard time finding a ticket with camping... but you can still have dinner at camp together. Just stay off-site and use the shuttle. That way you can camp with your friends. 
