Gathering of the Vibes

[idio]

lol at the karma loss

thanks buddy. keep on truckin'


i hope you have a good vibes this year. im looking forward to it, despite what you may think about me or what i've said.


stay off the n02, wait, n20, whatever - im in sales, not the lab.

[boo]

soooo whats the weather like at vibes?? I've not been and hope to go next year.

[kincade]

ahh... well, in my world, Nitrogen dioxide vs. Nitrous oxide is a bit more of a mistake than i after e accept before c (or whatever that saying is). I work in a hospital, not sales

[kincade]

Mar 26, 2010 12:02:27 GMT -5 boo said:

soooo whats the weather like at vibes?? I've not been and hope to go next year.

well, since not Ratdog, there should be no rain ((((soggy bobby))))

[mojo4395]

Since there's all this warm fuzziness going on, here's some karma to try to get you out of the red idioteque. I feel the smite button is only for use in extreme instances, and I'm happy to try and redeem those who have been smited for lesser reasons.

[idio]

its sort of fun. i usually play the good cop.

[atmosphere]

Im thinkin the Disco Biscuits will end up at Gotv this year.

[velvetc]

I'd like to go just to see Primus play. Maybe a one-day ticket could be bought for that.

[Dexxy]

exactly wut I am gonna do Velv, hoping for Umphrey's on the same day

[joker]

Mar 25, 2010 13:24:41 GMT -5 nydeadhead said:

Vibes had a good run, maybe this would have been a good year for them to take off & get back to their roots. After all the problems with last year (and the promoters being in denial about it) i get the feeling their heart is not in it anymore.
I also noticed that any opinion on their boards that is negative, the "vibegiudes" attack that poster, and people will join in saying they saw no N20 at the vibes.
The N20 at vibes last year was out of control. It was bad in 2008 and the promoter said he had plans to keep it out in 2009. I regret not snaping some pictures of the whole scene, in a strip as long as a football field (as wel as scattered all over the baseball fields) ....had more tanks than a warehouse. it was a very sad sight.
the N20 maffia caused a lot of problems and, although it's not proven, could be the reason someone died. i was in the same general are where he was found wrapped in a tarp and was told he looked beat up. No info has come out except homocide was ruled out.

I wont go into the GDF kids who were looking to beat up another group of people over some other BS.
Most of this all unfolded on the last day, but the balloons were there since thursday night.
it's still a fun festival but would be much better if held in a better place away from crack town.

It seems like they are more concerned about keeping the wait lines short and getting people inside and they're willing to sacrifice the safety of their patrons in order to do this.

When it was held at ILCC the complaints were about the wait to get in, year after year they promised things would be different and every year there were people complaining about waiting 10+ hours to get in. The problem was only "solved" by moving it back to Bridgeport where the searches to get in are minimal and that allows the N2O crowd to get in, set up and terrorize those unfortunate enough to be camped anywhere near them.

Of course they'll say they are "working to correct the problem" and "things will be different" this year but judging from their history, things will only get worse, just like last year was worse than the year before. I imagine if they do survive this year they'll promise things will be better next year and then promise the same thing the following year until eventually they move someplace else and they're forced to deal with a new set of problems.

As for the vibeguides attacking any negative opinion, there are a couple who will do so (to the point of banning people ) but most of them will allow you to express yourself even if they don't agree with you.

[shagggadellic]

I think I might buy a weekend pass and try to go 3 days from my house, even though it's a bit of a haul, a bit less than 2 hours. I like the lineup, but I'm not camping there. Everyone from CT knows about Bridgeport.

[pimpmcgeorge]

I just took a look at the lineup and schedule for the first time. Ack. It pales in comparison to last year. Those late-nights acts are pretty bunk, in my opinion.

[Dexxy]

Agreed, Vibes didnt really spend much money on their lineup this year, beside dropping WAY to much cash to lock in Furthur.. way after they already took tons of shiznit for NOT booking them. I love vibes and want them to be successful, to get back to their roots of what used to be a wonderful event.
DBB used to be interesting to me but sticking them as a latenighter is just a slap in the face. I was kinda hoping they would book someone different than them this year but instead they put them in a latenight slot! Lame. I cant really speak for Mix Master mike because I havent heard his solo stuff, but I am sure they could have gotten someone better had they wanted to spend the money.
The other thing that I just discovered that REALLY angers me about Vibes is that they have a clause in their contract with some bands this year that say IF they play Vibes they CANNOT play Nateva as well. For example: Assembly of Dust is contractually restricted from playing at Nateva.. now that is a really lame policy. Nateva has said multiple times that they dont want to compete with vibes. They want people to go and enjoy both festivals. I dont know what Ken has against Frank but whatever it is he isnt being professional about it.

[mojo4395]

Apr 29, 2010 10:42:22 GMT -5 Dexxy said:

Agreed, Vibes didnt really spend much money on their lineup this year, beside dropping WAY to much cash to lock in Furthur.. way after they already took tons of s#&% for NOT booking them. I love vibes and want them to be successful, to get back to their roots of what used to be a wonderful event.

Maybe I'm misreading this, but it sounds like you're saying that GOTV got Furthur. I just haven't seen that yet.

[pimpmcgeorge]

Just speculating, but Furthur is in NYC on July 28 and 29, wouldn't shock me if they made the short drive to GOTV to headline on Friday the 30th. I hope that's the case, for the sake of people who've already bought tickets. It would suck if they dropped an announcement like "FRIDAY HEADLINER IS O.A.R.!!!!!!"

edit: No offense to people who are into O.A.R.

[Dexxy]

Furthur is headlining Vibes. Its not announced you can mark my words its 100% confirmed

[itrainmonkeys]

Good for them. Thinking about a saturday day-pass for this because Umphreys --> Rhythm Devils (with Davy Knowles) --> Primus looks pretty sweet for $65 bucks.

[stilltruckin]

I've gone to the vibes for the last 6 years. Other than the nitrous scene, this is a great, great festival -- the vibes on the music field are mellow and friendly. The bridgeport site is really nice and there is zero interaction with the city: the site is a gated off waterfront park. We stay in a hotel 15 minutes away and avoid all the badness of the camping scene. DSO has played a spectacular set each of the past 4 years - this year's lineup is solid despite the experimental headliners -- but don't go for the headliners -- go for the immersion in great days of fun and music. Of course it's tough to beat the Sunday lineup at Nateva -- best day of music at any festival this year IMHO. Best wishes for a great show, Frank, and everyone else pulling this thing together! Peace, y'all.

[joker]

Apr 29, 2010 10:42:22 GMT -5 Dexxy said:

The other thing that I just discovered that REALLY angers me about Vibes is that they have a clause in their contract with some bands this year that say IF they play Vibes they CANNOT play Nateva as well. For example: Assembly of Dust is contractually restricted from playing at Nateva.. now that is a really lame policy. Nateva has said multiple times that they dont want to compete with vibes. They want people to go and enjoy both festivals. I dont know what Ken has against Frank but whatever it is he isnt being professional about it.

This isn't very surprising at all. Having been a part of the Vibes crew for years I got a chance to see and experience first hand some of the very unprofessional things Ken and some of his minions are capable of doing to others in order to get what they want.

But, for the sake of the Vibe Tribe, I really hope they are able to land Furthur.

[benwah]

you guys should go check out the absolute hilarity over at their forum. there's a thread about the nateva permit issue in the general vibes family section (top one). it has turned into a complete hatefest on nateva. i'm going to both and i really don't understand the annimosity. that thread over there is getting way too much like pt. a whole bunch of blow-hards who know nothing about what they post, no matter what the subject.

[Dexxy]

I cant even stand to look at that non-sense anymore, those people are mostly idiots. They are still freakin out about off-site like its up in the air WHO will be off-site, as if anyone could unknowingly end up there. They havent done a whole lotta research on the permits front either, lotta people still talkin about the ultimate collapse of Nateva lol

[itrainmonkeys]

May 13, 2010 14:48:47 GMT -5 Dexxy said:

I cant even stand to look at that non-sense anymore, those people are mostly idiots. They are still freakin out about off-site like its up in the air WHO will be off-site, as if anyone could unknowingly end up there. They havent done a whole lotta research on the permits front either, lotta people still talkin about the ultimate collapse of Nateva lol

Many are predicting the festival definitely won't happen. The funniest thing is that someone asked if the whole site is only 21 acres or if that meant that 21 acres of the area are undergoing construction.....then the rest of the posters keep saying how 21 acres won't be enough to fit 7,000 people and all that. If they did some research they'd know the area will be 100 acres plus the land they leased to the sides of it.

Lots of uninformed folk over there.....but whatever. I'm planning on Nateva and a day-pass for Vibes. I don't get the hostility either.

[Dexxy]

I think the majority of those people are slightly threatened by Nateva, as Vibes owner Ken openly is. They have zero idea what they are talking about over there.. completely void of any actual facts.

Really though, I dont understand the hostility at all either. I plan on going to both as well. Vibe has been great in the past and I am really hoping Nateva shapes up to be as good as its lookin. There is NO reason you cant go and enjoy both, there has been no animosity from the Nateva camp towards vibes.. they even have said they want people to go enjoy both.

They got REALLY offended when I started a thread over there a month or two ago about this forum opening. They got even more offended when they saw people here speaking complete truths about some of the negatives at Vibes in recent years. They just want to deny any of those things and act like we were bashing on vibes with no reason. Any festival I personally can watch a pick-up truck loaded with tanks, uncovered, enter the festival thru one of the major entrances from the city, has some serious issues going on.

[joker]

May 13, 2010 18:52:52 GMT -5 Dexxy said:

I think the majority of those people are slightly threatened by Nateva, as Vibes owner Ken openly is. They have zero idea what they are talking about over there.. completely void of any actual facts.

Nobody will deny that the Vibe Tribe isn't a cult. I've seen the late night gatherings where they drink the juice, speak in some strange red tongued language that only they can understand and dance in circles to the rhythm of terrible drumming...always the terrible drumming

May 13, 2010 18:52:52 GMT -5 Dexxy said:

Really though, I dont understand the hostility at all either. I plan on going to both as well. Vibe has been great in the past and I am really hoping Nateva shapes up to be as good as its lookin. There is NO reason you cant go and enjoy both, there has been no animosity from the Nateva camp towards vibes.. they even have said they want people to go enjoy both.

I find it hard to believe the vast majority of them wouldn't want Nateva to succeed. Although I could probably name a few of those grouseing about it too

May 13, 2010 18:52:52 GMT -5 Dexxy said:

They got REALLY offended when I started a thread over there a month or two ago about this forum opening. They got even more offended when they saw people here speaking complete truths about some of the negatives at Vibes in recent years. They just want to deny any of those things and act like we were bashing on vibes with no reason. Any festival I personally can watch a pick-up truck loaded with tanks, uncovered, enter the festival thru one of the major entrances from the city, has some serious issues going on.

Back in the early days of Vibes (before ILCC) that board was a gathering spot where everyone could stay in touch throughout the year and it was pretty much open to any type of discussion as long as there were no personal attacks on others. That made it a great asset for this type of community. However, as the Vibes continued growing, the board and it's members have become secondary to the business of making money. Many people on that board receive some type of perk be it a volunteer spot, comped tix or even if it's just a spot in "boardie camping" (usually a much safer spot than say "nitrous alley") so it's only natural they're going to prefer to talk up the positives and deny the negatives, in a way it's their fest.

Hell, before they ended up banning me for life because of "negativity" I had been warned about it for speaking up about things like how the water could be unsafe, about how they needed to make a real honest effort in safety, security, etc... before someone was killed and about how they treated their volunteers.

You folks here have a chance to build a solid base of support for Nateva, the key is to let folks have their say, be it positive or negative, without having to worry about being censored or banned. As long as nobody is attacking others people should be free to share their thoughts and opinions.

On a side note, the locking of the thread about Nateva being cancelled seemed uncalled for and seems to lead down the path of censoring "negative" discussion.

Habit'd

[itrainmonkeys]

May 14, 2010 12:02:40 GMT -5 joker said:

On a side note, the locking of the thread about Nateva being cancelled seemed uncalled for and seems to lead down the path of censoring "negative" discussion.

Your post has been insightful and interesting....definitely gives a little background.

That being said, this last part I quoted is the only part I felt I needed to comment on.

I didn't close the thread, but understand why it was closed. It clearly was not "censorship of negative discussion" since there wasn't any discussion going on. It was a post to try and cause problems here by claiming Nateva was cancelled when there was no real proof/source of the info. If fullstar/half star had just said "I heard Nateva may be cancelled because of permit problems" or something like that the thread may have stayed open. Instead it was the blatant attempt to create problems/rumors.

If I go to another festival's forum/message board and post a lie about the festival being cancelled......I don't expect my post to be left open.